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B E A S T · Aug 23, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

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Originally Posted by sindex

or when people start to wane off from playing GW.

With GW:EN coming out, that is definatley not going to happen any time soon. Anet also announced it had sold over 1 million copies in the last 9 months.

VitisVinifera · Aug 23, 2007, 03:09 AM // 03:09

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Originally Posted by AngeloM3

I'm sorry man... but how many "New favor system sucks" threads do we need.

one for every time we have a sucky favor system

which there has been since proph launched

and if there are multiple ones going, merge them....or something

sindex · Aug 23, 2007, 03:10 AM // 03:10

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Originally Posted by B E A S T

With GW:EN coming out, that is definatley not going to happen any time soon. Anet also announced it had sold over 1 million copies in the last 9 months.

And…..? Can you see the future to a point when people start getting bored with it again? I mean yes there will be new players, but in the future it’s pretty much in the air to what can happen. Unless there is another expansion coming down the pike, I see a drag till GW 2.

Sleeper Service · Aug 23, 2007, 03:10 AM // 03:10

I wish we could get some official title numbers out of anet.
yes we have permafavour now...but how long is it going to last?
I didnt mind the old system, and i dont mind the new one. Scrolls has made that irrelevant anyways.

VitisVinifera · Aug 23, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18

sleeper, you could calculate that yourself figuring how many minutes have passed since the new system went into effect, how many minutes of favor we currently have, and that 1 title = 3 min

and yes the current system is entirely arbitrary. There will be surges like now, currently due to both it being new and people wanting to see it work, plus others trying to wrap up old titles before the new game launches (I wanted to wrap up protector of elona and tyrian vanquisher before launch which I did last weekend). So the whole favor thing is stupid when you have around 2000 minutes of favor. Then things will eventually swing into the opposite area, where it will truly be rare to have favor, and we'll experience thermal death (sorry to bust out the cosmological terminology)

A system that made sense, wasn't arbitrary, and preserved a personal sense of accomplishment is what we needed.

Smile Like Umean It · Aug 23, 2007, 04:14 AM // 04:14

While I see something is definitely wrong with having favor the way we do now, it isn't my main concern. My whole thing with it is just how in the hell do they think this is going to work for two years? People are gaining titles right and left. Eye of the North might be bringing more, but it's still just an expansion. I don't see how it could possibly have enough new titles to keep this going for more than another three months max.

People are either going to get tired of the game, max everything expect maybe the ridiculous titles out (e.g. Luxon/Kurzick), or just not even care about titles. We'll be right back where we started with not being able to access FoW/UW only this time no one will have it. Which, I think is worse.

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Originally Posted by iamanalog

That Gem is from R. Kelly's Trapped in the closet, the most epic of Tales!

Lol. How the hell he managed to get so many "chapters" is beyond me.
You can check it out here.

MMSDome · Aug 23, 2007, 04:16 AM // 04:16

i have no problem with infinite favor, if you do then gtfo

chowmein69 · Aug 23, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35

the ectos and shard price hasnt changed since we got this new favor system
but they will maybe go dwon wen GWEN come out

acidic · Aug 23, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

it was funny....i tried to cap 1,337 minutes, but it didnt hit it... ;-; it was at 1,338

Zorgy · Aug 23, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Yup....imho the new favor system does not mean anything anymore. Anet should give the favor worldwide without any rule.

I am very satisfied because as I live in Europe & play on american servers, I was only able to do FoW & UW during the weekend. why? When America had favor it was very late in the night or too early in the morning....which didnt match when you have a daytime job

Sleeper Service · Aug 23, 2007, 06:02 AM // 06:02

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

sleeper, you could calculate that yourself figuring how many minutes have passed since the new system went into effect, how many minutes of favor we currently have, and that 1 title = 3 min

and yes the current system is entirely arbitrary. There will be surges like now, currently due to both it being new and people wanting to see it work, plus others trying to wrap up old titles before the new game launches (I wanted to wrap up protector of elona and tyrian vanquisher before launch which I did last weekend). So the whole favor thing is stupid when you have around 2000 minutes of favor. Then things will eventually swing into the opposite area, where it will truly be rare to have favor, and we'll experience thermal death (sorry to bust out the cosmological terminology)

A system that made sense, wasn't arbitrary, and preserved a personal sense of accomplishment is what we needed.

err yeah great thanks but that still will not tell me :

1. what specific titles have been maxed during the past X time
2. what titles are in the process of being obtained currently. (in the last 5% of completion for example)
3. how long it takes statistically to max out each indivdual title.
4. "age" of chars and what titles they have maxed.
5. total number of players online at X Y Z times, number of titles being maxed in those timezones.

points 4 and 5 are a little redundant but they would give a clearer overview.

without knowing these we will not be able to correctly estimate a curve.

Koross · Aug 23, 2007, 06:21 AM // 06:21

Just for the record, I love the gif.

Dark Dragon · Aug 23, 2007, 06:30 AM // 06:30

This is just laughable, it really is

Old system - People Complained.

New System just after implementation - People Complained no ones gonna get favor, GW is gonna Die

New System now - People are complaining, the market is gonna die

The next system after implementation - People are gonna complain that no one get's favor, GW is gonna Die

The next system after a while - i still see people complaining, beuase.... well that's all i ever see on guru now-a-days

Tahlia Tane · Aug 23, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51

The only thing worse than unecessary complaining is complaining that people are complaining. What the hell!

I'm surprised to see this thread get so big. I thought some moderator was gonna show up and go "wuts dis, sum silly gif? bah! locked!!".

Bryant Again · Aug 23, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54

I thought they...made people happy???

EPO Bot · Aug 23, 2007, 07:22 AM // 07:22

The thing you can learn from this, is that GW is far from dead. It takes a crazy ammount of active players to generate all that favor.
Remember how the original complaint was that there would never be enough titles maxed to keep favor on for more then a few minutes?

Hell! I have this game for one year and a half, and i only maxed one title.

Hyper.nl · Aug 23, 2007, 07:29 AM // 07:29

Can't we just get back to the old system? Europe ftw.

NeHoMaR · Aug 23, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Remember that event when access to UW/FoW was free? that was the last time I played in that places! (and I play everyday)

MrFuzzles · Aug 23, 2007, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by Dark Dragon

This is just laughable, it really is

Old system - People Complained.

New System just after implementation - People Complained no ones gonna get favor, GW is gonna Die

New System now - People are complaining, the market is gonna die

Seconded for hilarity. I was about to post the same thing - about how everyone complained that we would "hardly ever" get favor when this new system was implemented.

Yeah, this system isn't ideal. I agree that it's kinda pointless when we have favor constantly, but it's not the freaking end of the world. I'm sure anet understands this and will tweak it over time. Call me naive.
I would be more inclined to complain if favor was so rare that one practically never got to do fow/uw.

Kool Pajamas · Aug 23, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

People will start running out eventually. It may be a few months but it'll slow down.